“Consider This Analogy…..”

by Talib al-‘Ilm

Consider this analogy:

”Imagine three children, Yusuf, Abdullah and Ibrahim, aged 3, 5 and 7, respectively. Who is the last child? It is Yusuf, he is the youngest. Now say after 60 years they begin to return to Allah. Yusuf dies first, then Ibrahim. Abdullah remains alive. Who is the last child now? Abdullah. “Last Child” is relative to what? Last in age or last in death?” (Farhan Khan)

On occasion I must admit that it is a matter of some bemusement for me that the opponents of the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat often structure their arguments in such a way as to unwittingly support the Ahmadi cause. I have at time metaphorically rolled my eyes to the back of my head and sighed, and I have, I do admit, at times, allowed myself the simple pleasure of an inward chuckle. Yet if I was to be openly ask why this phenomena repeats itself again and again, I would honestly have to admit to being confused over it myself. I suspect it might be because such opponents, when refuted by logic, become increasingly desperate and desperate men have desperate thoughts – their thinking becomes twisted, slithering and sliding into all those mentally hidden chambers of logic where sobriety would not allow it, looking for any half opportunity to let loose its poison before settling on, what to the unprejudiced, upright and sincere man, can never be considered unreasonable.

So for example, certain ulema’ have boasted that they have persecuted the Ahmadi community more than the Quraysh persecuted the early Muslim, quite unwittingly substituting themselves for the Quraysh and the Ahmadis for the early Muslims. Others have written books against the community claiming that the Promised Messiah (as) filled his books with insults, lies and exaggerations, yet their very own books are so full of insults, lies and exaggerations that even their own followers have held their heads in shame. I am sure many of our Ahmadi readers will know the feeling; the bizarreness you feel when your opponents begins ranting on, looses himself and suddenly you find yourself in that twilight moment where it dawns upon you that if your opponent actually understood the import of what he was saying he would actually realise that he is uttering words of support for you rather than against you.

Such at least is the case with me in regards to Farhan. Farhan authored an email some time ago which ultimately ended up in my inbox. It contained (as these emails usually do) many points in a scatter gun approach which always makes things messy in responding – not because the issues posed were of any nuanced complexity, but more so because responding to unstructured allegations which jump from here to there tend to generate more heat than light. Yet knowing that a writer only needs to focus on one issue in detail to highlight inconsistency across the board, I thought it best to focus on the key issue of the email in this piece.

In the email was the quote I have put at the top of this article; an argument attributed to Farhan himself to try and reconcile the inherent contradiction that the non-Ahmadi Islamic world finds itself in when Jesus returns from the heavens. How can Jesus be a later prophet than the Holy Prophet, Muhammad (sas) when (as per Farhan’ claim) no prophet can come after the Holy Prophet (sas)? The analogy given at the outset of the articles stood wanting and alone in its attempt to explain lastness having several different meanings (only one of which apparently is acceptable to Farhan). In the given example of Yusuf, Abdullah and Ibrahim, aged 3, 5 and 7, respectively with Abdullah remaining alive after the death of the other two, what does the “last” signify?

Certainly when the three were alive the answer may be that Yusuf could have been said to have been the last. But if you asked the question at the point when only Abdullah remains I can almost guarantee that four out of every five people would say Abdullah is the last. Trying to profit out of induced confusion that Yusuf was the youngest profits no-one. The analogy is so clear it actually works in the favour of the Ahmadi Muslim position. Take this analogy across to the domain of prophethood. Jesus (as) returns as a prophet (as per Sahih Muslim) well after the death of the Holy Prophet (sas). At the point when he returns who is the last prophet? (Answer truthfully, be honest now).

In previous posts it has been pointed out that those who blindly oppose the Promised Messiah (as) for the sake of it without considering the merits of the points put forward in his favour with an open heart will ultimately fall on their sword. Farhan may or may not be beyond my call, but I would ask all other non-Ahmadis reading this to make a conscious effort not leap into alleyways of peripheral logic that lead nowhere in blind opposition, but to instead make a considered honest attempt to assess the matter at hand for what it actually is. If you do, may Allah reward you.


NB Further Food For Thought

A close friend emails me another point in the email, pointing out facts as he does with his usual depth of knowledge and expertise – I leave you to his good words:

“However, just got one point that may be worth mentioning if you feel or agree with it; it’s regarding the hadith about the 70 odd sects. I always find it interesting that the Holy Prophet spoke and prophesised that his ummah will resemble the Jews like one shoe to another, and that all will be in the fire except one. From that, I understand that all but one sect will resemble the Jews, so often I ask my Mullah buddies how they are not like the Jews and all remaining sects are. Haven’t received a good answer, the only one I do receive is that everyone else twists the Quran while we don’t.

Yet, this is clearly the case for the Ahmadis, in that the vast majority of other sects maintain very similar to early Jewish beliefs regarding the Messiah:

The Messiah would be a Kingly Messiah, in that he would rule over the Kingdom of Israel and wage war on the Gentiles, the war will be physical and cover the entire world.

Some Jews awaited the second physicaly descend of Prophet Elijah before the coming of the Messiah.

Some Jewish interpretations speak of the Messiah breathing fire from his mouth and killing his enemies. (I recall a similar hadith regarding the Promised Messiah)

That the Messiah would come at the end of days.

The Messiah will be of Davidic descent (Like the Mahdi being a descendant of the Holy Prophet)

The Messiah will judge the earth with truth (Like the Mahdi?)

After the Messiah, the world will be at peace and there will be no more wars etc.

Jesus did not fulfil any of the above literally, and so was rejected by the Jews. History repeats itself…”

Thank-you friend, I couldn’t have put it better myself.


7 thoughts on ““Consider This Analogy…..”

  1. JazakAllah Khair!!! This is astounding amount of precious information that you gave. May Allah SWT put barakah in your efforts. Ameen.

  2. What is more astounding to me is that people of such great Islamic scholarship and sainthood became the Imam Mahdi’s (as) followers.

    Hadrat Ghulam Rasul Rajeki (radiAllahu ‘anhu) came from a family of Qadiriyyah Sufis.

    Hadrat Hafiz Rushan ‘Ali (radiAllahu ‘anhu) was the 11th Imam in the Silsilah (chain of succession) of the Nawsha’i Qadiriyyah Sufi Tariqa (Order) with thousands upon thousands of murids (students) before becoming Ahmadi-Muslim. He was also a Hafiz of the Qur’an.

    Hadrat Sahibzadah ‘Abd al-Latif Shaheed (radiAllahu ‘anhu) was an established scholar trained in the ‘Ulum al-Hadith having memorized over 300,000 Ahadith by heart, was the Head Faqeeh of Afghanistan being trained in Shari’ah and Hanafi Fiqh, and a Wali Allah to whom thousands of students would flock to learn. He was also a Hafiz of the Qur’an. Many of his pious murids also became Ahmadi-Muslims. Here is a video (in Pashto, however I have a translation available for those that seek it) of the grandson of one of the murids of the Sahibzadah (ra): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BozZytwYkYg

    Khalifatul Masih Awwal (radiAllahu ‘anhu) although being a Mufassir of great acclaim, was also extremely proficient in the Hadith sciences, having received formal instruction in Mishkat al-Masabih, Sahih Bukhari, Abu Dawud, Sahih Muslim, Mu’atta Imam Malik, and studies on the other Sihah Sittah from Shuyukh in Mekkah, Madina, and India, and memorized hundreds of thousands of Ahadith. He was also the direct 28th transmitter of the Arba’in (40 Hadith) collection, and narrated them to 2 other companions of the Promised Messiah, one of which is Hadrat Hafiz Rushan ‘Ali (ra). (http://www.alislam.org/library/books/noor-ud-deen/hakeem-noor-ud-deen.pdf)

    Mawlana Nur al-Dun (ra) was also a Hafiz of the Qur’an, had completed the Hajj twice, and had studied works of Mantiq (logic), philosophy, Arabic poetry and literature, Mathnavi of Rumi (which the Promised Messiah had also studied in his youth), and Hanafi Fiqh (jurisprudence). He had also studied all of the works of Shakespeare in Arabic, and had formally studied medicine including modern medicine as well as the Qanoon (Canon) of Avicenna (Ibn Sina), the most celebrated physician in Islamic history, which is also in Arabic (which was the “Latin” and scientific language of its time).

    He also studied Persian, and learnt Urdu (Punjabi being his mother tongue) upon hearing it from an Indian soldier and then studying the works of Shah Wali Allah Dhelvi (a saint and Mujjadid of Islam).

    He was also the 34th direct lineal male descendant of Hadrat ‘Umar bin al-Khattab (ra) and therefore also a very good swimmer and rider of the horse (which presumably ran in the genes as Hadrat ‘Umar was also very powerfully built). This is why his real name is simply Nur-ud-Din with no last name, as the ‘Arabs have a tradition of having only one name and then “bin etc.” (son of the father’s name). His family had a tradition of becoming Huffaz for many generations, and his son in fact wrote a very good Arabic-to-English dictionary.

    The absolute first thing Hadrat Nur al-Din (ra) learnt of the ‘Ulum al-Islam was classical Arabic, and eventually attained proficiency in Balagha (eloquence/morphology), being able to make a Tafsir of the Qur’an called Haqa’iq al-Furqan (Inner Verities of the Discriminant). It is narrated that Hadrat Nur al-Din (ra) would attend classes to learn the split word-by-word translation of the Arabic words of the Qur’an every day, taught by a certain Munshi Jamal-ud-Din. One day it is narrated that:

    “During the translation session by Munshi Jamaluddin, Maulana Sahib sought permission to raise a point. Munshi Sahib gladly gave him the permission. Maulana Sahib enquired about the words of the Holy Qur’an, which made a reference to hypocrites. God has used lenient words “some among them” (Al-Baqarah, Verse 9), but later in this Sura, harsh words have been used about the hypocrites “When they meet their satanic leaders” (Al-Baqarah, Verse 15). He enquired what was the reason of this leniency followed by harshness. Munshi Sahib answered, “I do not know, and posed the question, ‘Do you know?’

    Maulana Sahib replied, ‘In my opinion, there were two types of hypocrites in Medina – one, were the People of the Book (Ahle Kitaab), and the other, were Idol Worshippers. The People of the Book have been mentioned in lenient words, while the idol worshippers have been mentioned in harsh terms.’

    Munshi Sahib left his pulpit, and requested Maulana Sahib to occupy it, and said, ‘Now you teach the Holy Qur’an, we will learn it from you.’ Munshi Sahib liked the commentary of Maulana Sahib on the Holy Qur’an so much that he developed a great respect and affection for him.”

    This is an instance of Hadrat Nur al-Din (ra) clearly using his proficiency in Balagha to understand the Qur’an.

    Hadrat Mawlana Nur al-Din (ra) was a gem of a man. It is for this reason that the Promised Messiah (as) wished that everyone in his Jama’at was like Nur al-Din (ra) because when the Promised Messiah was alone and being ridiculed, it was Nur al-Din (ra) that came to his madat.

    It is narrated by the Prophet (sa) that:

    أبو بكر خير الناس، إلا أن يكون نبي

    “Abu Bakr khayr al-Nāsa, illā an yakūn nabīyyun” – Abu Bakr is the best of men, except that a Prophet come after me.

    (al-Jāmi’ al-Saghīr fī Ahādīth al-Bashīr al-Nadhīr of Imām Jalāl al-Dīn Suyūtī, Vol. I, page 6)

    (This hadith, by the way, is probably a direct refutation to this article by brother Farhan: http://thecult.info/blog/2011/11/15/it-would-have-been-abu-bakr/)

    Abu Bakr (ra) was of a similar calibre of Nur al-Din (ra), accepting the Prophet (sa) without hesitation and demanding no proofs or miracles, at a time when the Prophet (sa) was ridiculed and not heard, and being the first person to ever accept Islam, as Hadrat Nur al-Din (ra) was the first person to take his bay’ah of the Promised Messiah (as) in a very similar manner, when there were no dala’il (evidences) of the Promised Messiah yet found by them in the Qur’an or Hadith but simply the Promised Messiah saying that God has told me that I am a Mujjadid, the Imam Mahdi and Promised Messiah, and I am telling it to you.

    So I hope and pray we can both attain a level even half of what Nur al-Din (ra) was in knowledge and piety. Ibn ‘Arabi (rh) states in his Futuhaat Makkiyyah (Meccan Revelations) that the best way to become like someone is to consistently pray for them.

    What the non-Ahmadi Muslims are expecting in terms of the Imam Mahdi and descent of the Messiah will never happen. They must learn to realize that Allah and His Messenger sometimes spoke in metaphors and parables.

    “Wa yadhribu Allāhu al-Amthāla li al-Nās; wa Allāhu bi kulli shayy’in ‘Alīm – And Allah sets forth parables to men, and Allah knows all things full well.” (Surah al-Nur, 24:36)

  3. I am good friends with brother Farhan. He is actually a really nice guy and has a pure heart. I think he simply does not understand Ahmadiyyah having not read the Imam Mahdi’s (as) books (which are in Urdu and Arabic, most of which are without translations so perhaps this is the impediment).

    As far as our view of Prophethood is concerned, there is no need to go into whether a Prophet can or cannot come after the Prophet (sa). We know that the Prophet Muhammad (sa) is the LAST Prophet because his type of prophethood (and for that matter the type of prophethood of any Prophet that came before him) is finished by his Khatam al-Nabuwwah (Seal of Prophethood). The only type of prophethood the Imam Mahdi (being mas’um – sinless) claimed, as per his divine revelation from God telling him specifically to claim this, is Zhilli and Buruzi nabuwwah, ie. a mirror reflection of prophethood of the Prophet (sa) and in his shadow. This is – in the Promised Messiah’s (as) own words – called “Ghayr Haqiqi” nabuwwah, and it is this reason that so many pious ‘Ulama accepted his claim when he appeared such as Hadrat Mawlana Ghulam Rasul Rajeki, Pir Siraj al-Haqq Nu’mani, Hafiz Rushan ‘Ali, and others (radiAllahu ‘anhum).

    With my humble study (La Hawla wa la quwwatah illa biAllahi al-‘Ali al-‘Aziz) of Arabic and Urdu, the various ‘Ulum al-Islam, and books of the Awliya’Allah, I find more and more proof of the truthfulness of Ahmadiyyah as the revival of Islam, and the Promised Messiah as the true Imam Mahdi and Masih the Ummah is waiting for, who came for the tajdeed (revival) of Islam, and not tabdeed (destruction of its tenets).

    Although this is by no means an extensive list and there are undoubtedly thousands of more dala’il that could be added to this list (and I do not exaggerate when I say thousands), I have compiled a few proofs of the truth of Ahmadiyyah in the following post, specifically directed at those Ahmadi-Muslims that fraternize with other Muslims and having no will to do Isthikhara or seek further truth through reading, eventually become non-Ahmadi Muslims thinking that they are now ‘Sunni’ (following the true Sunnah) although not realizing that Islam-Ahmadiyyah is the perfect manifestation of Sunnah as well. I have to date met new Ahmadi Muslims who used to be Sufis, and even Salafis, and they have all told me that “Ahmadiyyah is the real Tasawwuf; Ahmadis are the real Salifiyeen, etc.”.


  4. ” It contained (as these emails usually do) many points in a scatter gun approach which always makes things messy in responding – not because the issues posed were of any nuanced complexity, but more so because responding to unstructured allegations which jump from here to there tend to generate more heat than light. ”

    Excellent point there. I often find myself facing a mass of unstructured nonsense which requires an even longer response. My last line, calling for the individual to stick and investigate one point at a time is usually ignored

  5. Beautifully answered. Love it. Good job. Keep it up 🙂
    I am absolutely loving the content on here. Has increased me in knowledge, and I am now able to reply to some allegations. JakakAllah. May Allah bless you.

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