Refutation: In response to “Some Terminology Changes” by Farhan

By Lutf
Farhan, from the cultist group has posted an interesting entry. Half –baked as usual, this article on the use of terminology in Jama’at Ahmadiyya is a good specimen of anti-ahmadiyya bigotry. Some of his points are utter fallacies, and some are the “mullah twist” well known to all Ahmadis.Term 1: Ahmad- According to Farhan, the name Ahmad refers to the Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم), yet Ahmadis use this name only to identify, Hazrat Promised Messiah (علیہ السلام.)…

According to Quran, Ahmad is the “Jamali” name of Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم). Promised Messiah (علیہ السلام), in his commentary of verse 7 of Surah al-Saff writes;

“Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) is also given the name “Ahmad”, so Jesus (علیہ السلام) prophecised about him with this name. (He said) That after me another Prophet will come whose advent I prophecise, and his name will be Ahmad. This was a hint that he will Praise Allah very intensly”. (Al-Hakam, vol 5, No. 2, 17 Jan 1901, Page 4)

Because Promised Messiah علیہ السلام is also referred to as Hadhrat Ahmad, Sayyidna Ahmad علیہ السلام, does not mean that the name Ahmad is now not valid for all previous people known as Ahmad. We know that Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal, Shaikh Ahmad Sirhindi, Syed Ahmad of Bareli, All the Ahmads of Usmani (Ottomon) empire and many million others are still known by their given name, i.e., Ahmad.

It was God’s Will to name his Messiah and Mahdi with the same name as the Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم). So, he caused the name of Promised Messiah علیہ السلام to be Ghulam Ahmad, a humble servant of the greatest Prophet of God. Promised Messiah علیہ السلام named his community as Jamaa’t Ahmadiyya, because in his person, Allah manifested the qualities of the name Ahmad to the world again. But to all Ahmadis, the name Ahmad is the name of Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم). Our Imam Mahdi علیہ السلام was only a servant of Ahmad (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم.).

According to an oft-repeated hadith by mullahs, Mahdi will be called Muhammad ibn Abdullah. So when this fabled Mahdi appears, will our cultist friends stop referring to the Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) as Muhammad?

Term 2: Sahaba– According to Farhan, Sahaba are “Those followers of Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) who met him while they were Muslims and died upon that state”
So the assumption is that the term “Sahaba” can only be used for the companions of Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم).

The word “Sahabi” means companion and friend. Shah Waliullah of Delhi, a person respected by both Deoband and Barelvi sects used the words “Ashaabuna” for his own companions.

Similarly, the Sahaba of Promised Messiah (علیہ السلام) are his companions.
Yes, we use the same prayer of reverence for them as we do for the Sahaba of Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم), i.e., Radhi Allahu Anhu”. This is because it is the Sunnah of Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) that he prayed for the companions of his Messiah and Mahdi in the same words. It’s the same Hadith where he called Promised Messiah علیہ السلام as Nabiullah. (Sahih Muslim, Book 41, Number 7015)

Who can take back the honour bestowed upon the companions of Promised Messiah (علیہ السلام) by his Master, Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم)?

Term 3: First Five Khalifahs: Here he is assuming that Ahmadis have substituted the first four caliphs of Islam (r.a.) with their own caliphs.
It’s a manufactured term. If he meant rightly guided Caliphs then its only the first four we count as the Khulafa-e-Rashideen.Why count first 5? Why not all of them until 1919? There were umayyid and Fatimid and Ottoman Caliphs, etc. Did these subsequent worldly caliphs erase the memory of the first four caliphs?

The khulafa of Promised Messiah (علیہ السلام) are called Khalifatul Masih. We believe this to be the continuation of same khilafat which ceased among the Muslim ummah after Hadhrat Ali (r.a). According to Allah’s Promise in Surah Al-Nur, the same khilafat was re-established among Muslims after the advent of Promised Messiah (علیہ السلام).

Term 4: The two Holy Cities: Another manufactured allegation. He is clutching at straws here.

Many Ahmadis perform Hajj and Umrah every year and they go and visit the two Holy cities considered Holy by all Muslims. Qadian and Rabwah also hold a special place in our hearts because Allah chose these towns to send His Messiah and establish His khilafat here. I also honor a small English village called Islamabad, where one of our beloved khulafa is buried. These towns are signs of God, and forever witness to the truth of Promised Messiah علیہ السلام, but we follow Promised Messiah (a.s) and he wrote;

“And Doctor sahib knows that Harmain sharifain (May Allah increase their honour, blessings and status) are the seat of authority for many learned scholars of this age. And in Islam these very Arab cities, especially Makkah and Madinah are considered the home of faith. And learned sons and esteemed scholars of these cities have also started to join this humble one”. (Volume: 6, Page: 75, Book: Suchhai-ka-Izhar)

He also referred to the Sulaha-e-Arab and Divines of Makkah to be better equipped to accept his claims, because unlike the India maulvis, these people were born and raised in the land of knowledge and freedom. (Nur-ul-Haq page 19). He also prophecised that people of Makkah will join Ahmadiyyat in their droves (Nur-ul-Haq page 197). In Minnanur Rahman, Promised Messiah (as) goes to great lengths to prove that Arabic is the mother of all tongues and he also mentions Makkah as the first built town/city of the world.

So, in Ahmadiyyat, the true Islam, Makkah and Madinah are our Holy Cities. Promised Messiah (علیہ السلام) gave great value to these cities when it came to acceptance of his claims. We turn to Makkah to pray and we bury our deceased facing it. We love Madinah Munawwara because it is where our Master, our beloved Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) is buried.

Term 5: Messiah- That Messiah is a term only reserved for Jesus son of Mary علیہ السلام, and Ahmadis have “hijacked” it.

Messiah is a title, which means “the anointed one”. So, all prophets were Messiahs. Jesus (علیہ السلام) is called the “Messiah” because Jews were specifically waiting for a Messiah. It has been mentioned in old testament more than 30 times.
And besides all famous physicians were entitled Messiahs by their admirers. What about them?

Term 6: Holy Graveyard– Ahmadis believe that Bahishti Maqbara in Qadian is Holy (or Holier) than Jannatul Baqi.

Jannatul Baqi is a special place where many companions of Holy Prophet (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم) are buried. These lucky souls were given the good news of Jannah during their life-times. To be in the company of Khaataman Nabiyyeen (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم), to have heard and seen him and to have experienced God’s Mercy in those blessed day is paradise in this life.

Bahishti Maqbarah requires the person to strive to follow the footsteps of Sahaba. There is no comparison.

I think this blog post was just meant to keep the website active. I thank Farhan and other culties for giving me the opportunity to read some more portions of Quran, Hadith and writings of Promised Messiah (a.s.). Please carry on.


17 thoughts on “Refutation: In response to “Some Terminology Changes” by Farhan

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  2. agreed – also when i post on the cult website they only let selective comments be shown – anything they cannot answer they do not show

  3. From Tadhkirah (pages 1065-1066):

    “God has conveyed to me that there would be a great split in my Movement as well, and mischief makers and those who are the slaves of their own desires will depart…

    Then there will be a great uprising in the world. That would be the first uprising. Kings will invade kings. There will be so much bloodshed that the earth will be filled with blood…

    It will be the time of my Promised Son. God has decreed these events in connection with him. Thereafter our Movement will spread and kings will become members of the Movement. Be sure to recognize the Promised One.”

    Interesting as it seems the Promised Messiah (as) knew his Jama’at was going to split at the appointment by God of Khalifa II (ra) who was also the Promised Son (al-Musleh al-Mau’ood or Promised Reformer prophesied by the Promised Messiah (as)) and that World War I was going to happen during his time. He also says basically to “stick to the Promised Son” rather than be with those who would split from the Jama’at.

    This is a Divine Sign for the Lahori Ahmadis.

  4. Great post and great comments. I want to say one important thing here. The author of the post that this is rebutting, sorry, that this post rebutted, is called Farhan. His level of scholarship, as of late, has been very suspect and dubious. Unfortunately I think he has slowly become tinged by his adopted environment across there. He had at first appeared to be more sincere than this. We should each pray for him.

  5. AA
    JazakAllah for the information! MC Acidflow, I cant believe I over looked this book. JazakAllah for pointing that out.
    May I also suggest an amazing read (one of many); Tadhkirah – It consists of visions, Divine revelations and dreams Promised Messiah (A.S) had. They are truely amazing accounts.

  6. Jazak Allah for your kind words. It has grown into a neat little blog, Alhamdulillah. In all fairness, the blog is a developing as it is because Almighty Allah has sent many contributors and posters like yourself. It is a blog built upon the kindness and sincerity of individual Ahmadis around the world who congregate here, as in other places, to defend the pure and true guidance of the Imam of the Age (‘alayhi al-salam).

  7. This is probably the best site I’ve seen countering Anti-Ahmadi sites, especially the cult one. I kind of wish this site was around earlier so it could have prevented some unfortunate souls to be influenced by them. Khair, May Allah bless you for all your hard work!

  8. In fact that book should be read by all those who misguidedly think that the Promised Messiah, Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (‘alayhi al-salam) claimed to be in any way greater or equal to the Prophet Muhammad (sal’Allahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) in any way. He explains that the Holy Prophet (sa) is al-Insaan al-Ka’mil (the Perfect Man), and many other titles that not he nor Jesus son of Mary (‘alayhi al-salam) or any other Prophet of Allah can ever hope to achieve. In fact he says that in the evolutionary cycle of living organisms, the first microscopic organism represents the meanest of creatures, and that Muhammad ibn ‘Abdullah (barakAllahu ismohu wa sal’Allahu ‘alayhi wa ‘aalihi wa sallam jaseelun) represents the pinnacle and apex of evolution among all living organisms on earth. He is the evolutionary pinnacle, supreme nuqtah (point) of perfection.

    Here is the book for all fair-minded individuals to read for themselves:

  9. The Promised Messiah (as) on the front page of his book “Elucidation of Objectives” (Taudhih-e-Maraam) writes a short poem in which he mentions that “You may call great physicians or people with handsome features Messiahs but then why do you choose to not call the true Messiah as such?”

  10. The hadith is not that his name will be Muhammad son of ‘Abdullah. It simply says that “The Mahdi’s name will be like my name and his father’s name like my father’s name”. Is Ahmad not like Muhammad (meaning the same thing) and ‘Abd Allah (Servant of Allah) like Ghulam Murtadha (Servant of the Murtadha)?

    Also the name Ghulam in fact appears in the Qur’an itself many times (I have read for myself).

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