Refutation: Al-Wasiyyat & Chanda – Are They Islamic?

A person called Xiaahmad asked the following question on this blog:

 ”Can you please tell us where in Islam this Compulsory Chanda of 1/16 or 1/10 to 1/3 if u have subscribe for Grave for Heavens are mentioned? and that if person does not pay those they are answerable in hell?”

I should begin by saying that it will always be difficult for us to reconcile these types of initiatives when I believe that Almighty Allah communicated to Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (‘alayhi al-salam) and you perhaps do not believe the same. Added to this, is that we will also, no doubt, differ as to the status of Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (‘alayhi al-salam) who I believe to have been the Imam al-Mahdi and Messiah. If these differences are not first resolved, one way or the other, how can we hope to come to any common understanding on subsidiary issues such as al-Wasiyyat, Chunda, Nizam-e-Ahmadiyyat, and the various other issues which are floating around the internet?

Let us first look at the exact nature of al-Wasiyyat as stated by Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (‘alayhi al-salam) who wrote:

” Let no ignorant person think that this graveyard and the arrangements for it fall into the category of Bid‘at [an unwarranted religious innovation]. For this arrangement is in accordance with Divine revelation and there is no element of human involvement in it. And let no one wonder how, by just being buried in this graveyard, one can enter Paradise. The idea behind it all is not that this piece of land will make anyone worthy of Heaven; rather the Word of God means that only those will be buried here who are worthy of Heaven.”

Again, I accept and believe that Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (‘alayhi al-salam) received such communications from God. You most likely do not. This fact alone makes the rest of the discussion redundant to a certain extent. Nevertheless…

From the book al-Wasiyyat, the following principles can be derived:

1. The purpose of ”al-Wasiyyat” is: ”…for the advancement of Islam, dissemination of the Qur’anic knowledge, publishing religious books and for [the expenses of] missionaries of the Jama‘at. It is the promise of God that He will cause the Jama‘at to flourish, so it is expected that abundance of funds will be forthcoming for the propagation of Islam. Every matter pertaining to the proposals about the propagation of Islam, going into the details of which will be premature, will be paid for out of these funds.”

You may find Islam Ahmadiyya completely offensive to your understanding of Islam, but you cannot ignore the fact that it has been consistent and thorough in its endeavour to fulfil this ambition. For example, anyone who has any knowledge of translating a text and then advancing that translation to the point of publication will know how enormous such a task is. So imagine the time and money that was invested into the 160-plus full or partial translations of the Qur’an published by Islam Ahmadiyya;

2. Each person who wishes to enter into this scheme should contribute between 1/10 to 1/3 of his property to Islam Ahmadiyya for the above purpose and he should have also: ”…led a righteous life and abstained from all that is prohibited, and should have not been guilty of Shirk and Bid‘at. He should be a true and sincere Muslim;” and

3. That every: ”…righteous person who owns no property and is unable to render any financial service (to the community) can be buried in this graveyard, provided it is established that he had dedicated his life to serve the Faith and was a righteous person.”

(The full text of the Will which includes the above quotations can be found here)

I find nothing objectionable about the above scheme, it does not appear to be at all in opposition to the teachings of Islam. If anybody has a doctrinal issue with al-Wasiyyat, then they are welcome to mention that point in the comments section.

Let us now turn to the point of the whole book, as understand by me. In it, Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (‘alayhi al-salam) appears to say that if a person lives a righteous life, and makes a consistent financial sacrifice throughout his life, he will be rewarded with Heaven. Furthermore, that the scheme of al-Wasiyyat will facilitate this process. I am failing to see how this contention is problematic. Did Almighty Allah not clearly state in the Holy Qur’an:

”Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise)” (Q.9:111)

Niether do I find any difficulty in conversely believing that if a person: (a) does not live a righteous life, (b) does not sacrifice handsomely in the way of Almighty Allah, and (c) ignores the guidance of the Imam al-Mahdi, who the Prophet (sall Allahu ‘alayhi wa sallam) instructed all mankind to offer their allegiance to, he will not be looked upon favorably in the life to come? Am I missing something, or is this not common sense? It is also interesting to note that the portion of the book ”al-Wasiyyat” which is dedicated to monetary contributions is tiny. The primary focus of the book is on explaining how righteousness can be achieved through ”tazkiyyat al-nafs” (purification of the soul).

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The other issue mentioned was regarding Chanda. If someone pronounces the ”Shahadah” then he is a Muslim. If he believes that Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (‘alayhi al-salam) was the Imam al-Mahdi he must offer his bay’ah, as this is an instruction of the Prophet (sall Allahu ‘alayhi wa sallam), after which he becomes an Ahmadi Muslim (i.e., A Muslim who has accepted the Imam of the age). As I understand it, you then have two things which, although being closely related, are quite distinct from one another (this distinction is important), namely: (1) Being an Ahmadi Muslim, and (2) Being an Ahmadi Muslim who is a member of Nizam-e-Ahmadiyyat. The Nizam is a system designed for the propagation of Islam, the removal of ignorance, and cultivating righteousness within Muslims through various activities such as educational classes, religious and social events, sports events and various other events (Anyone who is an Ahmadi knows about all these initiatives – in my local Jama’at, for example, we hold daily classes for the boys and girls and a couple of classes a week for adults in tajwid al-Qur’an etc., and all in our Mosque). Again, if someone does not wish to be a part of the Nizam, or is removed from the Nizam for whatever reason, then this in no way impacts whether or not they are a [Ahmadi] Muslim. Here is a very important point regarding Zakat and chanda. Zakat is a payment which Almighty Allah has made a necessary condition of a Muslims Iman (faith) along with Salat, Hajj, etc.. Chanda is a payment which, only if you can afford it, is a condition of an Ahmadis membership of the official Nizam. To not pay it has no bearing on a person being a [Ahmadi] Muslim. That is proved by the fact that anyone who is not a member of the Nizam is free to attend Salat, Eid prayers, Jumu’ah prayers and, most importantly, remains Ahmadi unless he or she says otherwise. Their belief in Almighty Allah and bay’ah to the Imam al-Mahdi is a matter between them and God alone.

The above mentioned Jama’at initiatives are not free of charge and so cost something. If an Ahmadi wishes for his family to benefit from such initiatives (I do), then there is a necessary contribution that is needed for meeting those costs. If someone cannot afford to pay anything, they simply write to the head of the Community (ayyadahu Allah ta’ala bi-nasrihi al-‘aziz) to communicate this and they can then pay whatever is within their means (e.g., 50 pence or nothing if they have nothing).

What many do not know is that taxes and levies are not something new to Islam. In addition to Zakat, which is Fard (compulsory for a Muslim), there have long existed various taxes and funds which such as:

  • ‘Ushur – Import and Export duty
  • Khiraj – Land Tax
  • Sadqah – Unfixed charitable contribution
  • Jizya – Tax levied on dhimmis
  • Fay’ – spoils divided between those not participating in wars
  • Khums – Division of war spoils amongst soldiers
  • Dara’ib – Variable Social welfare Tax
  • Al-Fadilah – Income raised from Government owned natural resources
  • Waqf – Trust money held by the Government for the advancement of social and religios initiatives and institutions (i.e. building of Mosques)

If anyone takes issue with me saying that mandatory state / community levies are nothing new, then let me point him towards the following non-Ahmadi books:

(There are so many classical texts and modern commentaries on this subject – so many. It seems that it is only our friends across at the non-Ahmadi sites that have not come across this. This is surprising, considering that just about every Faqih (jurist) in history, across all Schools and sects, has written about this.)

These were taxes implemented over hundreds of years, some of which were obligatory and some were voluntary. These were payments necessary for the running of Islamic states and communities. In the Ahmadi context, how can Ahmadis expect the Jama’at to fund the following without the financial commitment of its members:

  • Mosques (millions and millions of pounds across the world, I am told by a good friend that there are in the region of 200 Mosques and Salat centres in Nigeria alone)
  • Maintenance (every Mosque needs heat, water, electricity, etc.)
  • Schools, Colleges, Pharmacies, Hospitals (countless across the third world which offer education to all for free or lower than the cheapest similar organisation in the same country)
  • The publications of books, videos and other literature so that we do not become an uneducated people (The Jama’at sells hardbound thick books for four or five pounds. Pick up a book of similar quality from Routledge, Palgrave or Ashgate and see how much a book of similar quality is sold)
  • The Publication of Qur’ans and literature which are distributed to non-Muslims so that they may understand the true teachings of Islam and, God Willing accept Islam, or at least develop a more balanced opinion of Islam (we are not all terrorists!)
  • Employ Missionaries across the world and fund their activities (Many Ahmadi Muslims would not even be Muslim today, but for the blessings of missionary work. Think also about how many of us learned how to read the Qur’an or understand Islam due to classes held by missionaries)
  • Employ staff, such as security guards, cleaners, administrators and accountants who all maintain the properties, physical well being and financial trusts of the Jama’at.
  • Running MTA which has been, and continues to be, of immense benefit to the world; particularly in those countries where Ahmadis have no right to even meet. This is not to mention the hundreds, if not thousands, of people who have accepted Islam as a result of watching MTA, Alhamdulillah.

This is a drop in the ocean of the things that chanda and other payments support. Islam is a practical religion and allows for practical solutions to our needs as individuals and a community. If someone has been blessed with sufficient money and believes in the above noble expenditures, then why on earth would he / she take issue with contributing a regular amount to support it. This was the way that Muslims behaved in the past and is absolutely nothing new. Would we rather the Jama’at send people each week with begging bowls, knocking from door to door?

Finally, let me conclude with the verse:

”And what aileth you that ye spend not in the way of Allah when unto Allah belongeth the inheritance of the heavens and the earth?” (Q.57:10)

For me the issue is no issue at all. It is just money which we cannot take with us to the next world. Firstly, pray that money never necomes a fitnah upon us and our loved ones. And then the best thing to do with any ”risq” we are blessed with is to spend it in this life for the sake of Almighty Allah and for those causes we believe will please Almighty Allah. Unlike our physical capital, the blessings we receive from spending in the way of Almighty Allah WILL accompany us into the next world. If someone does not feel that ”Chanda” / ”al-Wasiyyat” is the way for them to go, then I wish them well in whatever else it is they choose to spend their money on. As far as I am concerned, and I can only speak for myself, I am in no way ”brainwashed”, but just an ordinary Muslim, no better than any other, contributing towards a system which I believe in and have witnessed the fruits of.

And Almighty Allah knows best.

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22 thoughts on “Refutation: Al-Wasiyyat & Chanda – Are They Islamic?

  1. This is truly a perverted and bizarre morality which is being presented here.

    Miserly people who don’t even give 1% of their wealth voluntarily to help others… criticising and looking down on people who are giving 10% of their wealth voluntarily…

    The fact is that even the uber-wealthy filthy rich oil sheikhs of the Middle East haven’t done a fraction for the message of Islam, compared to a movement which started in a village in India.

    The fact is that the Ahmadiyya movement sent the first foreign missionaries for Islam to the West.

    The fact is that the Ahmadiyya movement established the first international worldwide Islamic satellite programme.

    Why didn’t the other Muslims manage to achieve any of this, despite their enormous wealth?

    Because Ahmadis give more than other Muslims. I don’t say this with arrogance in my heart. I say it as a fact. And we’re proud that we give more than these misers who criticise us. Let them be proud of their miserliness and let them criticise our spirit of sacrifice. But in the end, progress is through sacrifice, and we will continue to progress inshaAllah and they will continue to stagnate.

    Peace,
    Moosa

  2. إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ ٱشْتَرَىٰ مِنَ ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَنفُسَهُمْ وَأَمْوَالَهُمْ بِأَنَّ لَهُمُ ٱلّجَنَّةَ يُقَاتِلُونَ فِى سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِ فَيَقْتُلُونَ وَيُقْتَلُونَ وَعْداً عَلَيْهِ حَقّاً فِى ٱلتَّوْرَاةِ وَٱلإِنْجِيلِ وَٱلْقُرْآنِ وَمَنْ أَوْفَىٰ بِعَهْدِهِ مِنَ ٱللَّهِ فَٱسْتَبْشِرُواْ بِبَيْعِكُمُ ٱلَّذِى بَايَعْتُمْ بِهِ وَذٰلِكَ هُوَ ٱلْفَوْزُ ٱلْعَظِيمُ
    “Surely, Allah has purchased of the believers their persons and their property in return for the Garden they shall have; they fight in the cause of Allah, and they slay and are slain — a promise that He has made incumbent on Himself in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Qur’an. And who is more faithful to his promise than Allah? Rejoice, then, in your bargain which you have made with Him; and that it is which is the supreme triumph.” (surah Al-Tawbah, v.111)

  3. Pls i forgot to ask the other time.can you please tell me how much the companions of the Noble Prophet and True messenger of Allah, Muhammad bin Abdullah (salallahu alayhi wa sallam) paid to be buried in Al baqi

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  5. Very beautifully said. I didn’t know that it was the Nizam one was thrown out of and not the Jamaat. Although, I knew Ahmadis weren’t thrown out of the Jamaat for not paying chandha. I have had people ask me this question as well. Can anyone answer me if someone is thrown out of the Ahmadiyya Jamaat then is there Zakat not accepted? A friend of mine posed this question, and I think it is a good one. Can anyone answer me this? I want to know so that I can answer him back at some point in the future. I am still a bit ignorant in the matters of what happens when one is kicked out of the Jamaat and what is permissible afterwards. Jazakallah. I will very much appreciate it.

  6. Sorry, fat fingers.. Cont, from previous post..
    Whatever that may be.. It’s not mine to hold back from anyone.
    In a tine where social responsibilty is dwindling, I do take some issue with some of the taxes that are forced on me to live in this country.. Paying for wars I have no wish to be part of, nor of propping banks bonus pools, but nonetheless for all the freedoms and safeguards this country provides and for all the benefits that will be provided on those without the means, and countless disability allowances provided for the needy, I will pay.
    Why should it be any different when it comes to a matter of my faith. I am not hurt by a 1/16th ‘tax’.. It will pay for the use of mosques, prayer halls, murabi’s, schools for those boys from jamia that have made sacrifices that I can only be in awe of..
    But it goes back to the fact, ‘it ain’t my money..’ there are billions of people out there doing alot more for alot less, so who cares that I don’t get a plasma tv screen for eid.. That I don’t get myself the latest fashions.. Come on cultists.. Allah allows me to build mosques, hospitals and schools with my contributions.. Don’t try an tarnish that for your little political agendas.
    As Allah so beautifully says ‘Never will you attain to the highest degree of virtue unless you spend out of that which you love (3.93)’
    Try it out.. It might take some of the hate away..
    May Allah forgive us all our sins and allow us to find the truth within our hearts. Ameen
    Wasalaam

  7. Assalam o alaikum,
    Again great post, that has really put into perspective the whole issue of Chandah.
    A few years back, I decided that I would stop paying my Chandah, as I didn’t feel anyone deserved my hard earned cash.. No one but me, and I would decide what my money was spent on (may Allah forgive my arrogance)..
    It was only after having spent sone years in places of extreme poverty, with people who toiled day and night for maybe just a measly morsel of bread or a glass of water that a light switched on.. Nothing I earn belongs to me. Not a single dot. I haven’t done anything outstanding, or special for the money I earn.. I have simply been blessed by Allah. Allah has given me.. No sorry, has been merciful enough to give me the opportunity to spend from what He has provided to me, to be distributed to his people.
    Whether that be in the way of Zakaat, Chandah, charity of other forms tehrek e jadid, waqf e jadid

  8. in this time the real JIHAD is to strive hard to spread islam to the corner of earth. In order to spread islam , you need resources
    you need resources in the form of the
    i) Books
    ii) literature
    iii) Electronic media
    iv) personnel efforts etc etc

    and all these things require the money.
    you need money to feed people, to publish books, to keep the Murabian etc etc.
    Ahmadies need it as well as Non-Ahmadies also,

    now one way to look at the mater is to keep in the mind that JIHAD is farz( compulsory ) , so when we say that one should pay compulsory Chanda then whats the problem with these guys.
    is not the Jihad farz ( compulsory )
    should the money to support that Jihad be farz( compulsory as well )

    it is , and as our every thing is gifted by the God almighty we are
    quiet happy when we pay our chanda wasiyyat / chanda aam

    May Allah bless hazrat Messiah Maood (as) who opened for us the ways to do this Jihad .

  9. I think brother Xia needs to remember that those who don’t give chanda are only removed from the Nizam (the system)…not from the belief, nor are they said to be out of Islam. The whole purpose of the Jamaat is the spread and consolidation of Islam via Tabligh and Tarbiyyat. If somebody decides that they are not willing to sacrifice towards it, then they are prevented from giving anything in future and are officially out of the Nizam…but they can still call themselves Ahmadi Muslims and can take benefit from the works that chanda has given I.e. The mosque etc. Often those who don’t give chanda and are removed from the nizam usually don’t take an active part in the nizam anyway, but by officially being removed they often realise how important the nizam is to their lives and they themselves ask to be readmitted and in the vast majority of cases they are all readmitted…but they have a choice, they don’t have to ask for readmission.

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  11. its a mystery brother Ahmad, but in short they say
    1) this is innovation and hence Bid’ah
    2) compulsory chanda aam have created a new compulsion in islam
    but read my first post to learn

    1) every new thing is not bid’ah , hazrat muhammad (saw) favored the introduction of such things which are beneficial for people .
    2) compulsion is no in the sense of Prayer, Zakat , Keeping fast etc etc . but just in the sense our jammat consider this minimum chanda to be paid definitely .

  12. Brother Xiaahmad, I am sorry that you still feel that way. As I mentioned, it is not compulsory to pay one penny or dime to be an Ahmadi Muslim. Anyone who offers his/her bay’ah to Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (‘alayhi al-salam), who I believe was the Imam al-Mahdi, is an Ahmadi and that is really the end of it. Regarding ”al-Wasiyyat”, I must agree with brother Khalid who rightly mentioned that Islam permits good innovations. Amongst mainstream Muslims there is a difference of opinion on this matter with some who argue that no form of bida’ah is permitted while others argue that it is provided that it does not go against the Shari’ah and is a positive act. However, this particular scheme (i.e., al-Wasiyyat) was something I believe was communicated to Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (‘alayhi al-salam) by Almighty Allah and you do not accept that – again, this makes the conversation somewhat redundant. I am not a Jama’at representative and so you should aim your question about what exactly Chanda is to a Jama’at representative. I simply said that it is not charity which is generally referred to as Sadqa in Islam.

    May I also add that while you and I differ in our opinions on this subject, I appreciate that you have taken the time to visit this blog and post your comments. Please continue to do so for as long as you feel comfortable. You are, just like all visitors, very welcome.

  13. Prophet Muhammad (PUBH) did said to Hazrat Umar(RA) that why u bring half of ur house stuff I asked for all so ur out of Islam and that u will have to answer in hell.

    but in ur jammat its compulsory not personal choice
    Its fixed rates
    People get thrown out
    and people are answerable in hell

    So ur saying Chanda is TAX?

    And about Wasiyat its simple that acknowledgement by u that it is something start by MGA is enough to prove my point.

  14. when they say that chanda is not islamic , then it means that these poor people have failed to see such a system in the early islamic period.

    they think whatever was there at that time , should remain as it is and any addition to it is a bidd’ah .

    but this is not the reality .
    As an ahmadi i believe that This is the ERA of JIHAD with pen , not with the sword.

    and i also believe , that doing both kind of jihad you have to have the resources for it.

    How ahmadiyyat can manage these resources?

    Begging on the streets and putting boxes on shops to give us money so that we can carry on our duties of JIHAD ( a thing commonly seen on pakistan streets , a country from where i belong)

    There was the need to manage the resources and money does not come from the sky .
    Even prophet hazrat Muhammad (saw) had to ask for Chanda in addition to the ZAKAT.
    Which shows that asking for chanda is not un-islamic .
    The only objection in the whole article is that why it was made imperative on the ahmadies to pay chanda at the fix rate .
    And thus this kind of fixing the rate of chanda , have made alteration in the Islamic system of zakat and thus this

    Lets analyze this allegation of Bida’ah from the hadith

    “ Mundhir b. Jarir reported on the authority of his father: While we were in the company of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) in the early hours of the morning, some people came there (who) were barefooted, naked, wearing striped woollen clothes, or cloaks, with their swords hung (around their necks). Most of them, nay, all of them, belonged to the tribe of Mudar. The colour of the face of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) underwent a change when he saw them in poverty. He then entered (his house) and came out and commanded Bilal (to pronounce Adhan). He pronounced Adhan and Iqima, and he (the Holy Prophet) observed prayer (along with his Companion) and then addressed (them reciting verses of the Holy Qur’an): ‘” 0 people, fear your Lord, Who created you from a single being” to the end of the verse,” Allah is ever a Watcher over you” (iv. 1). (He then recited) a verse of Sura Hashr:” Fear Allah. and let every soul consider that which it sends forth for the morrow and fear Allah” (lix. 18). (Then the audience began to vie with one another in giving charity.) Some donated a dinar, others a dirham, still others clothes, some donated a sa’ of wheat, some a sa’ of dates; till he (the Holy Prophet) said: (Bring) even if it is half a date. Then a person from among the Ansar came there with a money bag which his hands could scarcely lift; in fact, they could not (lift). Then the people followed continuously, till I saw two heaps of eatables and clothes, and I saw the face of the Messenger (may peace be upon him) glistening, like gold (on account of joy). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: He who sets a good precedent in Islam, there is a reward for him for this (act of goodness) and reward of that also who acted according to it subsequently, without any deduction from their rewards; and he who sets in Islam an evil precedent, there is upon him the burden of that, and the burden of him also who acted upon it subsequently, without any deduction from their burden.

    The last part of the hadith gives us the true definition of SO CALLED BIDA’AH .

    Every thing introduced is not the bida’ah at all.
    If something good have been introduced and which is helping the people and spreading the true message of the islam to the corner of the islam then it is allowable in islam and hazrat Muhamamd (saw ) approved this 1400 years ago
    Cannot the Essa bin Marrium and Imam Mahdi set some good precedent ?
    Cannot the Essa bin Marrium and Imam madhi give a system of chanda taken so that in this era islam could be spread to the corner of the earth. ?

    The answer is YES. Indeed he (as) had the complete authority to set something good , in accordance with the new needs of the islam in this time .
    The only question remains that Chanda taken from ahmadies is a good precedent or is a bad precedent
    I left if for the reader to decide.

    So the allegation that this is Bida’ah is totally wrong
    Had thecult members had the knowledge that Prophet hazrat Muhammad (saw) on the one had have termed
    “”every innovation (bid’ah) is a misguidance” and that “every misguidance leads to the hellfire”.
    But at the same time have also said that

    .He who sets a good precedent in Islam, there is a reward for him for this (act of goodness) and reward of that also who acted according to it subsequently, without any deduction from their rewards;

    they must have not raised this allegation at all.

    for the compulsory nature of the chanda aam
    one need to watch first these two question answer session

    Financial system of the Jamat ahmadiyya part 1


    Financial system of the Jamat ahmadiyya part 2

    As mentioned in the question answer session of hazrat Khalifatul messiah (rz)
    very clearly that is

    we call it compulsory , compulsory in a sense that we expect every ahmadi to pay otherwise there is no compulsion . if some one does not pay , all right you cannot call him non ahmadi because he did not pay because if he believe in hazrat messiah maood (as) and imam mahdi then he is off course an ahmadi. ”

    Had the chanda aam be the integral part of jamate ahmadi no one , including the khalifatul messiah had the right to change it. But as this was just the decision of the Majlis Shura , and this is not indeed compulsory in the sense prayers and zakat and fast is .
    we say it compulsory only in a sense that every one should strive hard and should give it so that needs of the islam could be fulfilled .

    and as i gave the reference of the hadith earlier, jamate ahmadiyya have set a very good example and setting good examples is the commendable act .

    but alas on thecult mentality.

  15. Brother Xiaahmad, It was never my intention to convince you, but only to share with you my personal thoughts just as you are welcome to share your thoughts with me. Nevertheless, I am sorry that you feel that way about my answer. Here are a few more of my thoughts after reading your thoughts: (1) As stated in the beginning of the post, the whole discussion is really not worth getting into as you do not consider that Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (‘alayhi al-salam) enjoyed any kind of communication from Almighty Allah; (2) The main mention of heaven in my post was with reference to a verse in the Qur’an and the ”al-Wasiyyat” reference read as follows: ”The idea behind it all is not that this piece of land will make anyone worthy of Heaven;” (3) Yes, it is like purchasing heaven – because we know, regardless of whether we come across it in the book ”al-Wasiyyat” or not, that those who spend in the way of Almighty Allah and live righteous lives will be guaranteed a great reward – is that not the case?; (4) Please forgive me, perhaps I did not write well enough. I thought that I had explained that it is compulsory only if you can afford it and want to make benefit of the initiatives run by the Jama’at which do cost something. For example, as an Ahmadi, I want to have a Mosque close by which I can take my family to and pray in. I accept that Mosques are not built or purchased for free and that they are not maintained for free. I also would like a teacher / murabbi to lead me and my family in prayers and to teach us about Islam – that is also not free (Not the prayers of course, but accommodation, living allowance, the basics). I see no club mentality here – this is the reality of the world we live in. I have no issue with paying a much higher amount for a visa to ‘Umrah than visas to other countries as I know that the Saudi Government have extra costs because of the large number of people who perform ‘Umrah and Hajj. It would be wonderful if a billionaire Arab brother came along and paid for everything with one big cheque, but that is not a reality for most of us; (5) I kindly disagree with your assessment that Chanda is charity – that is Sadqa. Again, I am sorry if you found no benefit in my answer. I wish you well in whatever you choose to find benefit in.

  16. So you have acknowledge that Al Wasiyat is not Islamic
    it was just something that Mirza Ghulam came up with .
    Thats was my whole point and u agreed to that….

    Its like purchasing a heaven

    And about Chanda you miss the point according Jammat its 1/16 and Compulsory… and If person does not pay then thrown out of Jammat.

    come on what are u talking about here a religion or some Club?

    and why person is answerable in hell if does not pay chanda?
    If it is just some sort o administrative tax. or like club membership fee

    Remember it is not TAX its Charity ur talking about Chanda

    so sorry to say but it was not a convincing answer

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